Barry Diller trusts Sam Altman. But ‘trust is irrelevant’ as AGI nears, he says.
Barry Diller trusts Sam Altman. But ‘trust is irrelevant’ as AGI nears, he says.
巴里·迪勒信任萨姆·奥特曼，但他表示，随着通用人工智能（AGI）的临近，“信任已无关紧要”。
Billionaire media mogul Barry Diller doesn’t think OpenAI CEO Sam Altman is untrustworthy, despite recent reporting to the contrary. On stage at The Wall Street Journal’s “Future of Everything” conference this week, Diller vouched for the AI exec, who has been accused by some former colleagues and board members of being manipulative and deceptive at times. 尽管近期有报道称 OpenAI 首席执行官萨姆·奥特曼（Sam Altman）不可信，但亿万富翁媒体大亨巴里·迪勒（Barry Diller）并不这么认为。在本周《华尔街日报》举办的“万物未来”（Future of Everything）大会上，迪勒为这位人工智能高管进行了辩护。此前，奥特曼曾被一些前同事和董事会成员指责有时存在操纵和欺骗行为。
Diller, who is friendly with Altman, was responding to a question about whether or not people should put their faith in Altman to ensure that artificial intelligence benefits humanity. In particular, he was asked about the theoretical form of AI known as Artificial General Intelligence, or AGI, which could one day outperform humans on any task. 迪勒与奥特曼私交甚笃，他在回答关于人们是否应该信任奥特曼以确保人工智能造福人类的问题时发表了上述看法。他特别被问及了被称为“通用人工智能”（AGI）的理论形态，这种人工智能有朝一日可能在任何任务上超越人类。
The media exec, a co-founder of Fox Broadcasting and chairman of IAC and Expedia Group, said that while he believes Altman is sincere in his pursuits, that’s not really the area of concern people should be focused on. Rather, it’s the unknown consequences that will result from AI. 这位媒体高管是福克斯广播公司（Fox Broadcasting）的联合创始人，同时也是 IAC 和 Expedia 集团的董事长。他表示，虽然他相信奥特曼的追求是真诚的，但这并不是人们应该关注的重点。人们真正应该关注的是人工智能将带来的未知后果。
“One of the big issues with AI is it goes way beyond trust,” Diller said. “It may be that trust is irrelevant because the things that are happening are a surprise to the people who are making those things happen. And I’ve spent a lot of time with various people who’ve been in the creation mode of AI, and they have a sense of wonder themselves. So…it’s the great unknown. We don’t know. They don’t know,” he explained. “人工智能的一大问题在于它远超信任的范畴，”迪勒说道。“信任可能已经无关紧要了，因为正在发生的事情对于那些创造它们的人来说也是一种惊喜。我花了很多时间与参与人工智能创造的各界人士交流，他们自己也感到惊奇。所以……这是一个巨大的未知领域。我们不知道，他们也不知道，”他解释道。
“We have embarked on something that is going to change almost everything. It is not under-reported. Now, whether these huge investments are going to come through — I couldn’t care less. I’m not invested in it, but progress is going to be made,” Diller added. Still, the media mogul said he believes that most of the people leading the charge are good stewards, saying he believes that Altman is sincere and “a decent person with good values.” “我们已经踏上了一段将改变几乎一切的旅程。这方面的报道并不少。至于这些巨额投资最终能否实现回报——我一点也不关心。我没有投资，但进步终将发生，”迪勒补充道。尽管如此，这位媒体大亨表示，他相信大多数引领这一潮流的人都是负责任的管理者，并称他认为奥特曼是真诚的，是一个“有良好价值观的正派人”。
“But the issue is not their stewardship. The issue is … it’s dealing truly with the unknown. They don’t know what can happen once you get AGI, and we’re close to it. We’re not there yet, but we’re getting closer and closer, quicker and quicker. And we must think about guardrails,” Diller noted. “但问题不在于他们的管理。问题在于……这确实是在处理未知事物。他们不知道一旦实现 AGI 会发生什么，而我们已经离它很近了。虽然还没达到那个阶段，但我们正以越来越快的速度接近它。我们必须考虑护栏（安全机制），”迪勒指出。
Plus, he warned, if humans don’t think about guardrails, then the alternative is that “another force, an AGI force, will do it themselves. And once that happens, once you unleash that, there’s no going back,” Diller said. 此外，他警告说，如果人类不考虑护栏，那么另一种可能就是“另一种力量，即 AGI 力量，会自己动手。一旦这种情况发生，一旦你释放了它，就再也没有回头路了，”迪勒说道。