NPR’s Manoush Zomorodi talks about living with too much tech
NPR’s Manoush Zomorodi talks about living with too much tech
NPR 的 Manoush Zomorodi 谈论如何应对过度的科技生活
Manoush Zomorodi is an accomplished reporter, podcast host, and author. Her new book, Body Electric, takes a comprehensive look at how technology is impacting our physical health. It’s a collaboration between NPR and Columbia University Medical Center that picks up where her first title, Bored and Brilliant, left off. That book looked at how technology was hampering our mental health. I highly recommend it to anyone who feels like being constantly attached to a device is sapping their energy and creativity.
Manoush Zomorodi 是一位成就斐然的记者、播客主持人和作家。她的新书《Body Electric》全面审视了科技如何影响我们的身体健康。这本书是 NPR 与哥伦比亚大学医学中心合作的成果，延续了她第一本书《Bored and Brilliant》的主题。前作探讨了科技如何阻碍我们的心理健康。我强烈向那些感觉被设备束缚、导致精力和创造力被耗尽的人推荐这本书。
Both books grew out of her extensive podcasting work. After heading up WNYC’s Note To Self, Zomorodi went on to host NPR’s TED Radio Hour, and even gave a TED Talk of her own in 2017 that has racked up over seven million views. So we wanted to know, how does Manoush stay productive, and what does her current relationship with tech look like?
这两本书都源于她丰富的播客工作。在负责 WNYC 的《Note To Self》节目后，Zomorodi 接着主持了 NPR 的《TED Radio Hour》，并于 2017 年发表了自己的 TED 演讲，该演讲目前的观看次数已超过 700 万。因此，我们想了解 Manoush 是如何保持高效的，以及她目前与科技的关系是怎样的？
What is the first app you install on a new phone or computer? 你在新手机或电脑上安装的第一个应用程序是什么？
I was a devoted user of Pocket, the app that saves articles to read later, for over a decade, and was devastated when Mozilla shut it down. I’ve been using Matter ever since, and it seems to do the job just as well, if not better (highlighting actually works!), but I’ve noticed I use it more these days as a repository for research that I want to reference later.
我曾是 Pocket（一款保存文章以便稍后阅读的应用）的忠实用户，使用了十多年。当 Mozilla 关闭它时，我感到非常沮丧。从那以后我一直使用 Matter，它似乎做得一样好，甚至更好（高亮功能真的很好用！）。但我注意到，如今我更多地把它当作一个存储库，用来存放我以后想参考的研究资料。
What is one thing you wish you could change about your phone? 你希望手机能做出的一项改变是什么？
I realllllly wish that I didn’t have to contort my body to spend time on it. I have a constant low-grade literal pain in my neck that only goes away when I’m off my phone for a full day. That said, I’m so not ready to “upgrade” to Meta glasses or anything on my face just yet.
我真的非常希望不必为了使用手机而扭曲我的身体。我的脖子一直有轻微的疼痛，只有当我整天不碰手机时才会消失。话虽如此，我还没准备好“升级”到 Meta 眼镜或任何戴在脸上的设备。
How many tabs do you have open right now? 你现在打开了多少个标签页？
- How embarrassing. They’re mostly Google Docs, Riverside, LinkedIn, email (opened multiple times), scientific articles, and the Amazon rankings for books. I notice that I get annoyed when I can’t find the right tab quickly, so I just open a new one. (Hence, Gmail is open in three places)
37 个。真尴尬。它们大多是 Google Docs、Riverside、LinkedIn、电子邮件（开了好几个）、科学文章以及亚马逊的图书排行榜。我发现当无法快速找到正确的标签页时，我会感到烦躁，于是就直接打开一个新的。（因此，我的 Gmail 在三个地方同时打开着。）
What is your favorite gadget you’ve ever owned? 你拥有过的最喜欢的电子产品是什么？
I truly love my AirPods because I can walk and talk unencumbered. Whenever possible, I ask people to do a phone call instead of Zoom. It’s such an easy way to get some movement into my day, and I pay better attention too.
我真心喜欢我的 AirPods，因为我可以无拘无束地边走边聊。只要有可能，我都会要求对方通过电话而不是 Zoom 进行沟通。这是一种让我每天都能活动起来的简单方式，而且我也能更专注。
Which was the most disappointing? 哪一个最让你失望？
Oculus. Sits on a shelf.
Oculus。现在正躺在架子上吃灰。
What creation are you most proud of? 你最引以为傲的作品是什么？
I am incredibly proud that the Body Electric study was accepted for publication in a scientific journal. I’ve been doing interactive projects with tens of thousands of listeners for over a decade, but this is the first one to get the full peer-review treatment. It’s a real milestone for me as a journalist, wanna-be scientist!
我非常自豪《Body Electric》的研究被科学期刊录用发表。十多年来，我一直与成千上万的听众进行互动项目，但这是第一个经过完整同行评审的项目。作为一名记者兼“准科学家”，这对我来说是一个真正的里程碑！
What do you do when you’re feeling stuck? 当你感到卡壳时会做什么？
I go for a long, boring walk, even if I don’t feel like it. Centuries of long walks have produced incredible literature, inventions, and amazing ideas for what to make for dinner. I remind myself of how the body and brain respond to movement, listen to the dull thud thud of my sneakers, and then, within 15 minutes or so, I usually come unstuck.
我会去进行一次漫长而无聊的散步，即使我并不想去。几个世纪以来的漫步产生了不可思议的文学作品、发明，以及关于晚餐吃什么的绝妙点子。我提醒自己身体和大脑是如何对运动做出反应的，听着运动鞋沉闷的脚步声，大约 15 分钟后，我通常就能摆脱困境。
When was the last time you went somewhere without your phone? 你上一次没带手机出门是什么时候？
Never. I have teens and elderly parents. Much as I don’t always want to be, I need to be reachable.
从来没有。我有十几岁的孩子和年迈的父母。尽管我并不总是想被打扰，但我必须保持随时可联系的状态。
What’s the last piece of physical media you bought? 你最近购买的实体媒介是什么？
I buy books non-stop. Reading on paper is the only way I can process a long piece of writing.
我一直在买书。阅读纸质书是我处理长篇文章的唯一方式。
What do you think is worth splurging on? 你认为什么东西值得挥霍？
See above!
参考上面那条！
What would the tagline for your biopic be? 如果拍摄你的传记片，标语会是什么？
Manoush Zomorodi: The woman who never took an Uber if she could get there on foot.
Manoush Zomorodi：那个能走路到达就绝不打 Uber 的女人。