You can’t ignore Google Zero anymore

你再也无法忽视“Google Zero”了

The web and Google once had a deal: Google collects data and indexes webpages and in exchange sends oceans of traffic to websites. The deal wasn’t perfect and certainly made Google more money than it made the websites, but it worked for a long time. Now, however, the deal seems to be dead. And the web is being forced to reckon with what happens when the Google traffic dries up.

互联网和谷歌曾经达成过一项默契：谷歌收集数据并索引网页，作为交换，它会为网站输送海量的流量。这项交易并不完美，谷歌从中赚取的利润显然也远高于网站，但它确实长期有效。然而现在，这项交易似乎已经名存实亡。互联网正被迫面对当谷歌流量枯竭时，将会发生什么。

On this episode of The Vergecast, David and Nilay talk about the week’s Google Zero news, including Reddit’s interest in getting out of an AI training deal, and the publishers considering blocking Google from crawling their sites altogether. (Nilay also takes a bit of a victory lap on the whole “Google Zero” term, but only a short one.) Even Google’s Search business is feeling the AI crunch, and it’s anyone’s guess what happens next.

在本期《The Vergecast》节目中，David 和 Nilay 讨论了本周关于“Google Zero”（谷歌零点击搜索）的新闻，包括 Reddit 想要退出 AI 训练协议的意向，以及出版商们正考虑彻底禁止谷歌抓取其网站内容。（Nilay 还针对“Google Zero”这个术语小秀了一把优越感，不过时间很短。）即便是谷歌的搜索业务也感受到了 AI 带来的冲击，未来会发生什么，谁也说不准。

After that, it’s time for some AI news, including questions on how much to panic about OpenAI accidentally hacking Hugging Face, and the many dubious AI detector systems coming to platforms near you. We also have a Hype Desk, an episode of Brendan Carr is a Dummy, some news on an Apple payment plan, a new minimalist phone, and a special guest appearance to talk about Ford and Apple Maps.

接下来是 AI 新闻时间，包括我们该对 OpenAI 意外“黑入” Hugging Face 事件感到多恐慌，以及即将在各大平台涌现的众多可疑的 AI 检测系统。我们还有“炒作台”（Hype Desk）环节、一期关于 Brendan Carr 的吐槽、苹果支付计划的相关新闻、一款全新的极简手机，以及一位特别嘉宾带来的关于福特与苹果地图合作的讨论。

In case you missed it this week: We also talked about the state of the US / China AI race, the rise of the EV golf cart, all of Samsung’s new foldables, and the end of reading. And we want to hear all your thoughts about all of it! Call the Vergecast Hotline at 866-VERGE11, send us an email at vergecast@theverge.com, and tell us everything that’s on your mind. And make sure you subscribe so you don’t miss an episode!

如果你错过了本周的内容：我们还讨论了中美 AI 竞赛的现状、电动高尔夫球车的兴起、三星所有的折叠屏新品，以及“阅读的终结”。我们非常想听听你对这些话题的看法！请拨打 Vergecast 热线 866-VERGE11，或发送电子邮件至 vergecast@theverge.com，告诉我们你的想法。记得订阅节目，以免错过任何一期！