Trump’s ‘Morally Binding’ AI ‘Accord,’ the Rise of AI Agents, and Extremists on the Ballot
Trump’s ‘Morally Binding’ AI ‘Accord,’ the Rise of AI Agents, and Extremists on the Ballot
特朗普的“道德约束”人工智能“协议”、AI 代理的兴起以及选票上的极端分子
This week on Uncanny Valley, Brian Barrett, Zoë Schiffer, and Leah Feiger discuss the “morally binding” AI accord that tech executives signed following a meeting with Donald Trump. They’ve agreed that AI labs will regulate themselves—should work out great. Plus, the team digs into OpenAI’s Developer Day, where CEO Sam Altman introduced AI agents for normies, otherwise known as Dots; how AI agents are coming to workplaces near you; and a quick rundown of the most extremist candidates running for office.
在本周的《恐怖谷》（Uncanny Valley）节目中，Brian Barrett、Zoë Schiffer 和 Leah Feiger 讨论了科技高管在与唐纳德·特朗普会面后签署的“道德约束”人工智能协议。他们一致同意由人工智能实验室进行自我监管——这听起来效果应该会很棒。此外，团队还深入探讨了 OpenAI 的开发者日，首席执行官山姆·奥特曼（Sam Altman）在会上为普通用户推出了 AI 代理（即 Dots）；探讨了 AI 代理如何进入你的工作场所；并简要盘点了正在竞选公职的最极端候选人。
Brian Barrett: Hey, this is Brian. Two quick things before we dive in. If you’ve been listening for a while and you haven’t rated or reviewed the podcast yet, this is your sign. Give us a rating, tell us what you think. Five stars is nice, but we’ll take the feedback too. It really helps more people find the show. Also, if you’re in the Bay Area, we will be doing a live audience recording of the podcast on Thursday, October 8, at 7 pm at The Commons, headquarters of our KQED friends in San Francisco. You can buy tickets on kqed.org or check out the show notes for the link. You won’t want to miss it. OK, on to the show.
Brian Barrett： 嘿，我是 Brian。在深入正题前有两件事要说。如果你已经听了很久但还没给播客评分或评论，这就是个提醒。请给我们打个分，告诉我们你的想法。五星好评固然好，但我们也欢迎反馈。这真的能帮助更多人发现我们的节目。另外，如果你在湾区，我们将于 10 月 8 日（周四）晚上 7 点在旧金山 KQED 总部 The Commons 进行播客的现场录制。你可以在 kqed.org 购票，或查看节目说明中的链接。千万别错过。好了，进入节目。
Zoë Schiffer: Welcome to WIRED’s Uncanny Valley. I’m Zoë Schiffer, contributing editor.
Zoë Schiffer： 欢迎收听《连线》（WIRED）的《恐怖谷》。我是特约编辑 Zoë Schiffer。
Brian Barrett: I’m Brian Barrett, executive editor.
Brian Barrett： 我是执行编辑 Brian Barrett。
Leah Feiger: And I’m Leah Feiger, director of politics and science.
Leah Feiger： 我是政治与科学总监 Leah Feiger。
Brian Barrett: This week we’ve got a new proclamation, or rather a “morally binding” AI accord from the White House. After a meeting between tech executives and Donald Trump, it basically says the AI labs are going to regulate themselves. Should work out great. Plus we’ll talk about OpenAI’s Developer Day, where CEO Sam Altman announced the company’s new always-on AI agents for regular folks. More AI agents—again, should work out great. Everything’s working out great today.
Brian Barrett： 本周我们迎来了一项新公告，或者说是来自白宫的一份“道德约束”人工智能协议。在科技高管与唐纳德·特朗普会面后，协议基本规定人工智能实验室将进行自我监管。这听起来效果应该会很棒。此外，我们还将讨论 OpenAI 的开发者日，首席执行官山姆·奥特曼在会上宣布了公司为普通大众推出的全新常驻 AI 代理。又是 AI 代理——同样，这听起来效果应该会很棒。今天一切都进展得太顺利了。
Zoë Schiffer: Yeah. And as AI agents become way more popular in Silicon Valley and beyond, employers are pushing to have these agents harmoniously work alongside human employees. We’ll get into how that process is actually going and what the chances are that we’re all going to have to welcome some bot colleagues very soon.
Zoë Schiffer： 是的。随着 AI 代理在硅谷及其他地区变得越来越流行，雇主们正推动这些代理与人类员工和谐共事。我们将深入探讨这一过程的实际进展，以及我们很快就不得不迎接机器人同事的可能性有多大。
Leah Feiger: And with the midterm elections closing in, we’re going to be talking about some of the extreme candidates running for office. It’s not just political candidates who feel emboldened to say whatever they want. It’s also people who are currently or have been recently working for the government, including a retired army colonel turned Pentagon influencer who WIRED reported this week, posted plenty of praise for dictators and has a plan to strip the vote from anyone without kids.
Leah Feiger： 随着中期选举临近，我们将讨论一些正在竞选公职的极端候选人。不仅是政治候选人觉得可以肆无忌惮地发表言论，那些目前或最近在政府工作的人也是如此，包括一位退役陆军上校转型的五角大楼网红。据《连线》本周报道，他发布了大量赞美独裁者的言论，并计划剥夺所有没有孩子的人的投票权。
Brian Barrett: Let’s start, though, with a nice luncheon that happened on Tuesday. President Trump invited all his favorite AI executives over to the White House. He had Sundar Pichai, Elon Musk, Dario Amodei, Mark Zuckerberg, Jensen Huang, OpenAI president Greg Brockman, not OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, plus a lot of companies that I was less familiar with. It felt like a little bit of a motley crew in some ways, but that’s neither here nor there. They came out with a signed document called the White House Accord on Super Intelligence. “Super intelligence,” of course, is how the government is now referring to AI, artificial intelligence. But in this accord, the companies agree that they should put their models through four layers of controls and audits. That includes internal evaluations, letting an outside audit firm come in and make sure everything’s OK, and having the company’s own board review those audits. And it’s all voluntary.
Brian Barrett： 不过，让我们先从周二举行的一场午宴说起。特朗普总统邀请了他最喜欢的 AI 领域高管前往白宫。出席的有桑达尔·皮查伊（Sundar Pichai）、埃隆·马斯克（Elon Musk）、达里奥·阿莫代（Dario Amodei）、马克·扎克伯格（Mark Zuckerberg）、黄仁勋（Jensen Huang）、OpenAI 总裁格雷格·布罗克曼（Greg Brockman，而非 CEO 山姆·奥特曼），以及许多我不太熟悉的公司代表。在某些方面，这看起来像是一群乌合之众，但这并不重要。他们签署了一份名为《白宫超级智能协议》的文件。“超级智能”当然是政府现在对人工智能的称呼。但在该协议中，各公司同意将其模型置于四层控制和审计之下。这包括内部评估、引入外部审计公司确保一切正常，以及由公司董事会审查这些审计结果。而且，这一切都是自愿的。
Leah Feiger: That remains the keyword here. When it ever comes to any sort of proposed regulation at all that we’ve seen thus far in the AI space, when it comes to the White House, voluntary is the word. I don’t know, is it so silly of me to be so hung up on this that none of this is real? This is all fake.
Leah Feiger： 这仍然是这里的关键词。到目前为止，我们在人工智能领域看到的任何形式的拟议监管，只要涉及白宫，关键词就是“自愿”。我不知道，我一直纠结于这一切都不是真的，是不是太傻了？这一切都是假的。
Zoë Schiffer: Yeah, I don’t think we were expecting the Trump administration to come out with real regulations for AI companies. Their big thing is—
Zoë Schiffer： 是的，我不认为我们曾期待特朗普政府会为人工智能公司出台真正的监管措施。他们最看重的是——
Leah Feiger: For sure.
Leah Feiger： 当然。
Zoë Schiffer: … AI growth. But yeah, I mean when they came out, Trump came out in front of the White House with all of the CEOs, their takeaway message was like, “We got this. We take it seriously. Don’t worry about it.” And I think it was actually stated by someone there like, “We’ll regulate each other. We’re looking out for each other.”
Zoë Schiffer： ……人工智能的增长。但确实，当他们出来时，特朗普带着所有 CEO 出现在白宫前，他们传达的核心信息是：“我们能搞定。我们很重视。别担心。”我想当时确实有人说：“我们会互相监管。我们会互相照应。”
Leah Feiger: I mean, we have to talk about this one particular moment. It’s been gathering all sorts of attention online, where Dario Amodei is sort of awkwardly pushed to the front of the microphone to share some words, and Trump praises him, saying, “Whatever he says is OK,” which is great. So here’s what he said.
Leah Feiger： 我的意思是，我们必须谈谈这一个特定的时刻。它在网上引起了各种关注，达里奥·阿莫代被尴尬地推到麦克风前分享几句，特朗普称赞他，说“他说什么都行”，这太棒了。以下是他所说的话。
Archival audio: Can we just bring Dario to the front for a second?
存档音频： 我们能让达里奥到前面来一下吗？
Donald Trump, archival audio: Where’s Dario?
唐纳德·特朗普，存档音频： 达里奥在哪儿？
Brian Barrett: He does not want to be in the front, at all.
Brian Barrett： 他一点也不想站在前面。