The iPhone Duo should have been an iPad
PodcastsAITechThe iPhone Duo should have been an iPadOn The Vergecast: Notes on an iPhone Duo review, a PHP scandal, Brendan Carr, and more.On The Vergecast: Notes on an iPhone Duo review, a PHP scandal, Brendan Carr, and more.by David PierceOct 23, 2026, 5:00 PM UTCDavid Pierce is editor-at-large and Vergecast co-host with over a decade of experience covering consumer tech. Previously, at Protocol, The Wall Street Journal, and Wired.
播客、人工智能、科技：iPhone Duo 本应是 iPad。在《The Vergecast》节目中：关于 iPhone Duo 评测的笔记、PHP 丑闻、布伦丹·卡尔（Brendan Carr）等内容。作者：David Pierce，2026 年 10 月 23 日，世界标准时间下午 5:00。David Pierce 是《The Vergecast》的特约编辑兼联合主持人，在报道消费电子产品方面拥有十多年的经验。此前曾供职于 Protocol、《华尔街日报》和《连线》杂志。
We gave the iPhone Duo a 7 /10. But that wasn’t always the score we planned, and it might not be the right score forever. Such are the challenges of reviewing — and assessing — a big, new idea about the most popular smartphone in history.On this episode of The Vergecast, David and Nilay debate whether the Duo deserved the score it got, and try to work through how this device might change over time. Is the outer screen, as Daring Fireball’s John Gruber suggested, the worst iPhone ever? Would it be a better product if it started as an iPad rather than an iPhone? Would we feel differently about this thing if it were simply called the iPad Duo? It’s easy to see how the Duo will improve over time, but will it ever be the phone for everyone?
我们给 iPhone Duo 打了 7/10 分。但这并非我们最初计划的分数，而且它可能永远不会是最终的正确分数。这就是评测和评估历史上最受欢迎智能手机的一个重大新理念所面临的挑战。在本期《The Vergecast》中，David 和 Nilay 讨论了 Duo 是否值得这个分数，并试图探讨该设备未来可能发生的变化。正如 Daring Fireball 的 John Gruber 所言，外屏是有史以来最糟糕的 iPhone 吗？如果它最初作为 iPad 而非 iPhone 推出，会是一款更好的产品吗？如果它简称为 iPad Duo，我们的感觉会不同吗？我们很容易看出 Duo 会随着时间的推移而改进，但它会成为适合所有人的手机吗？
After that, the hosts talk about the huge PHP cybersecurity flaw that rocked the web this week and what it means for the future of the web, AI, and everything. It was a strange week for the web in general, as the ongoing increase in AI shopping has forced retailers everywhere to figure out how they want to interact with customers — and by customers, we mean Muse agents. Then it’s time for Brendan Carr Is a Dummy, an impending reboot inside of Netflix, and some very confusing Gemini news. Watch | Listen | Get ad-free
此后，主持人谈到了本周震撼互联网的重大 PHP 网络安全漏洞，以及它对网络、人工智能及其他一切事物的未来意味着什么。对于整个网络来说，这是一个奇怪的星期，因为人工智能购物的持续增长迫使各地的零售商思考他们希望如何与客户互动——这里的客户指的是 Muse 代理。接下来是“布伦丹·卡尔是个笨蛋”、Netflix 内部即将进行的重启，以及一些非常令人困惑的 Gemini 新闻。观看 | 收听 | 获取无广告版本。
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