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The Endlessly Meme-able Steve Kornacki Is Not a Meme Person

Standing in front of a gigantic map isn’t a traditional path to fame. But in 2020, during the presidential face-off between Donald Trump and Joe Biden, Steve Kornacki became America’s sweetheart for his enthusiastic delivery of state-by-state election results. The NBC data analyst gracefully guided teeth-grinding, fist-clenching viewers through Biden’s eventual victory, and the rest is history: That same year, Kornacki was named one of People’s sexiest men alive; the internet became obsessed with his khaki pants; and he earned the nicknames “chartthrob” and “map daddy.”

站在巨大的地图前并不是通往名声的传统路径。但在2020年唐纳德·特朗普与乔·拜登的总统对决期间，史蒂夫·科纳基（Steve Kornacki）因其对各州选举结果充满热情的播报而成为了美国的“甜心”。这位NBC数据分析师优雅地引导着那些咬牙切齿、紧握双拳的观众们见证了拜登最终的胜利，而剩下的就是历史了：同年，科纳基被《人物》杂志评为“在世最性感男士”之一；互联网对他那条卡其裤着了迷；他还获得了“图表万人迷”（chartthrob）和“地图老爹”（map daddy）的绰号。

Kornacki further established himself as the king of election season with the “Kornacki Cam” during 2026 midterm primary election nights, when his nonstop behind-the-scenes livestreams amassed 42 million views. Now that midterm election day is upon us, Kornacki is acutely aware of how many viewers have come to rely on him. “I get very anxious about being prepared for election night,” he says, “and then thinking of all the things that I might not be prepared for, and then just taking the phone out and trying to get prepared.”

在2026年中期选举初选之夜，科纳基通过“科纳基摄像头”（Kornacki Cam）进一步巩固了他作为选举季之王的地位，他那不间断的幕后直播积累了4200万次观看。现在中期选举日即将来临，科纳基敏锐地意识到有多少观众已经开始依赖他。“我对选举之夜的准备工作感到非常焦虑，”他说，“想到所有我可能还没准备好的事情，然后就拿出手机，试图做好准备。”

For someone who spends a lot of time logged on, Kornacki doesn’t exactly have the habits of someone who is chronically online. He seems to know nothing at all about memes, FaceTime really isn’t his thing, and he isn’t quite sure what a subreddit is. Ask him about who’s most likely to win today’s races, though, and he’ll have no shortage of knowledge to share.

对于一个花大量时间在线的人来说，科纳基并不具备那种“重度网瘾者”的习惯。他似乎对模因（meme）一无所知，FaceTime对他来说也不是什么必需品，他甚至不太确定什么是Reddit子版块（subreddit）。不过，如果你问他谁最有可能赢得今天的竞选，他会有说不完的见解。

Phone model: iPhone 17 Pro. Basically, I break one phone per year, so I recently upgraded to it. They always say the camera’s better. It never is any different to me, and the battery’s always great for 10 days.

手机型号：iPhone 17 Pro。基本上我一年会弄坏一部手机，所以我最近升级到了这款。他们总说摄像头更好，但我从来没觉得有什么不同，而且电池续航总是能维持10天，非常棒。

Computer model: a Dell. It’s been in its office probably as long as I’ve been at NBC. It has a thing on it that says Windows 7 Pro, which I think is old. This thing is on its last leg because I’ve just been too lazy to replace it. I never really got into Macs. I think I had one once, and I just remember not really liking it. I know it’s supposed to be user-friendly, but it actually drove me a little crazy.

电脑型号：戴尔（Dell）。它在办公室里的时间大概和我待在NBC的时间一样长。上面有个标签写着Windows 7 Pro，我觉得这很老了。这台机器已经快不行了，因为我一直懒得去换它。我从来没用习惯过Mac。我想我曾经有过一台，只记得当时并不怎么喜欢它。我知道它应该很人性化，但它实际上让我有点抓狂。

Average daily screen time: 3 hours, 35 minutes. That is depressing. That’s more than 12.5 percent of my life. And then you take out the eight hours of sleep, it’s an even bigger piece of the pie. I thought about taking dramatic steps to change it and, like most of my thoughts about dramatic steps to change my life, I never actually do it.

平均每日屏幕使用时间：3小时35分钟。这真令人沮丧。这占了我生命中超过12.5%的时间。如果再扣除8小时的睡眠时间，它在我的生活中占比就更大了。我曾想过采取激进的措施来改变它，但就像我大多数关于改变生活的激进想法一样，我从来没有真正付诸行动。

It’s texting, email, definitely there’s social media, which is a lot of just trying to make sure I’m not missing something that’s happening in my world. This time of year, with the election, I’ll have a panicky thought about a particular state that I’m going to cover on election night and some aspect of it, and then I’ll think of some blind spot that I have and I’ll try to fix it on the spot.

这包括发短信、电子邮件，当然还有社交媒体，大部分时间我只是在确保自己没有错过我所关注领域内发生的事情。每年的这个时候，随着选举临近，我会对选举之夜要报道的某个特定州及其某些方面产生恐慌，然后我会想到自己的一些盲点，并试图当场解决它。

Music app: Spotify. It’s fun at the end of the year, they give you your top songs. It says my all-time top song is “My Girl” by the Temptations. Is Spotify the one that did your listening age or something a couple years ago? Mine was 87 or something.

音乐应用：Spotify。年底的时候很有趣，他们会给你总结年度热门歌曲。上面显示我史上最爱听的歌是诱惑合唱团（The Temptations）的《My Girl》。Spotify是不是几年前还做过那种测试“听歌年龄”之类的功能？我的测试结果是87岁左右。

Number of unread emails: 53,828. When it was at about 5,000 it overwhelmed me, but now it’s just part of the furniture.

未读邮件数量：53,828封。当邮件数量在5000封左右时，我感到不知所措，但现在它已经成了我生活的一部分，就像家具一样平常。

Number of unread texts: 75. It’s amazing what you can get yourself accustomed to, I guess. I will occasionally—probably once every week or two—sit down with the texts to get it down to zero. That one I can still control, but with email I wouldn’t even know where to start. It’s almost like a game now to see how high I can get it.

未读短信数量：75条。我想，人真是能适应各种事情。我偶尔——大概每隔一两周——会坐下来处理短信，把未读数清零。短信我还能控制，但对于电子邮件，我甚至不知道从何下手。现在这几乎成了一场游戏，看看我能把未读数堆到多高。

Last person you FaceTimed: Cousin. It’s from over the summer. We were doing a family reunion thing. But I never really got into that. I like just talking on the phone where you don’t have to worry about appearances or anything. You can get up, walk around, whatever. I don’t think you need to see each other unless it’s some kind of formal meeting. I got so sick of Zoom with Covid, if I can avoid it, I will.

最后一次FaceTime通话的对象：表亲。那是夏天的事了。当时我们在举行家庭聚会。但我从来没真正喜欢过这种方式。我喜欢单纯地打电话，不用担心外表什么的。你可以站起来，走来走去，随心所欲。除非是某种正式会议，否则我觉得没必要非得看到对方。新冠期间我用Zoom用得太反感了，如果能避免，我尽量避免。

Last thing you Googled: Boothbay Harbor 2024 presidential election results. For part of the election prep, looking at Maine, obviously the Senate race. Results come in by town in Maine, which is not the case in a lot of states where it’s by county. Some of them I need to research on my own, and that’s one of them.

最后一次谷歌搜索的内容：布斯贝港（Boothbay Harbor）2024年总统选举结果。作为选举准备工作的一部分，我关注了缅因州，显然还有参议院竞选。缅因州的选举结果是按城镇统计的，这与许多按县统计的州不同。其中一些我需要自己研究，这就是其中之一。

Last photo you took: Sergeantsville, New Jersey. I had about two hours on Saturday of actual free time before getting on a train to DC and drove through there.

最后一张照片：新泽西州萨金茨维尔（Sergeantsville）。周六在坐火车去华盛顿特区之前，我有大约两个小时的空闲时间，开车经过了那里。

Last thing you asked AI: “Can you overlay these numbers onto the attached map of Minnesota counties?” I created benchmarks for the candidates in the Senate race there. This has been new for me this year, and I don’t know if I like it. I used to just handwrite them myself on county maps, and now I had AI do it, and I printed the map out, which is much cleaner. It looks much better. Maybe the act of writing them out myself actually maybe helps me internalize it better. I don’t know. Maybe this was a bad move.

最后一次询问AI的内容：“你能把这些数字叠加到附件的明尼苏达州县地图上吗？”我为那里的参议院竞选候选人设定了基准。这对我来说是今年的新尝试，我不知道自己是否喜欢它。我过去习惯在县地图上手写这些数字，现在我让AI来做，然后把地图打印出来，这样整洁多了。看起来好多了。也许亲手写下它们实际上能帮我更好地内化这些信息。我不知道。也许这是一个错误的决定。

I have a lot of queasiness and misgivings about AI, but like I said, I have all these files with the maps and these benchmarks on spreadsheets, and I was like, geez，this really would save an hour.

我对AI有很多不安和疑虑，但正如我所说，我有所有这些带有地图和电子表格基准的文件，我当时想，天哪，这真的能节省一个小时。

Your top three or most recent most used emojis: N/A. The closest thing I can give you is that I use the thumbs-up thing on text. I really don’t use emojis, or, as I mistakenly pronounce them, emoj-eyes. I do think I will use the wink one, because my jokes don’t always come through to people.

你最常用的三个或最近使用的表情符号：无。我能给出的最接近的答案是我在短信里会用那个“点赞”图标。我真的不用表情符号，或者像我错误发音的那样，叫它们“emoj-eyes”。我想我确实会用那个眨眼的表情，因为我的笑话并不总是能被别人理解。

Favorite social network: X and YouTube. I use Twitter or X or whatever they call it now to keep me aware of things, but I’m not sure it’s a healthy thing to use. We’ve used YouTube for these livestreams that we did in the primary season and built a community on there with the folks who were tuning in and watching these things. It’s kind of cool to see that come into being.

最喜欢的社交网络：X和YouTube。我使用Twitter或X，或者现在无论他们叫它什么，来保持对事物的了解，但我并不确定使用它是否健康。我们在初选季利用YouTube进行了直播，并与那些收看直播的人们建立了一个社区。看到这一切成形感觉挺酷的。

Favorite news source: The New York Post. Besides my employer, NBC, I really like the old-school print edition New York Post—picking up a tabloid newspaper. I love newspapers, I always will, and you still get that old-sch…

最喜欢的新闻来源：《纽约邮报》。除了我的雇主NBC之外，我真的很喜欢老派的《纽约邮报》印刷版——那种拿起小报的感觉。我热爱报纸，永远都会，而且你依然能感受到那种老派的……